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Post by PantherU on Nov 1, 2012 11:35:08 GMT -6
There are 5 people that I talk to at Detroit pretty regularly. A couple of these people typically answer my texts/calls/DMs within 5 minutes. No one has gotten back to me since 10 p.m. last night. What do you think?
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 1, 2012 18:22:48 GMT -6
It doesn't smell good for Detroit.
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Post by irishdawg on Dec 6, 2012 15:28:25 GMT -6
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Post by gman2 on Dec 17, 2012 23:45:17 GMT -6
Nice job by Detroit to fight back and battle Syracuse to the end. If Detroit can match the intensity they had in that final stretch of the game throughout the HL season they will be force. I would also guess they could easily sweep us this year.
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Post by royalty414 on Feb 17, 2013 11:47:41 GMT -6
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Post by PantherU on Feb 18, 2013 2:36:55 GMT -6
Butler, nor any of the other schools, will turn down that offer. Detroit is, at best, the 17th school in this new conference. Catholic 7 Butler Xavier Dayton Saint Louis Creighton Richmond VCU Belmont George Mason There's probably more. That's just off the top of my head.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 18, 2013 10:46:00 GMT -6
Detroit just arrived on the scene as of late, as far as success is concerned. Now, they're the next powerhouse in the conference that deserves an upgrade to a successful conference if/when created? Wow, when Anderson and Minerates leaves, we'll have anothet bottom feeder. I wouldn't be surprised if Detroit goes to the dance if McCallum leaves.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 18, 2013 10:47:02 GMT -6
Leave for the league that is.
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Post by GB BB is Back! on Feb 18, 2013 12:26:46 GMT -6
Butler, nor any of the other schools, will turn down that offer. Detroit is, at best, the 17th school in this new conference. Catholic 7 Butler Xavier Dayton Saint Louis Creighton Richmond VCU Belmont George Mason There's probably more. That's just off the top of my head. True, but that list changes dramatically if the Catholic 7 decides to unite only with catholic schools. That crosses Butler, VCU, Belmont, and Richmond off the list. If that happens, the next question is, what happens to the A-10 TV deal if they lose all those schools. UMass is also considered the favorite for the 12th Big East slot. If that TV deal dissolves, there no good reason for Butler to stay in that conference. Could a scenario play out that brings Butler back to the Horizon League? The present conference, minus Detroit, but plus Belmont, Murray St, and Oakland, might become the most attractive basketball only conference available to Butler. That could lead to a much improved TV deal for the HL.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 18, 2013 13:04:38 GMT -6
True, but that list changes dramatically if the Catholic 7 decides to unite only with catholic schools. That crosses Butler, VCU, Belmont, and Richmond off the list. They're selective, not stupid. The Catholic 7 is the name being used because that's the catchy media term for it; I seriously doubt they're beholden to anything but adding the absolute best basketball programs that aren't hitched to football. If that happens, the next question is, what happens to the A-10 TV deal if they lose all those schools. UMass is also considered the favorite for the 12th Big East slot. If that TV deal dissolves, there no good reason for Butler to stay in that conference. The A-10 television deal is practically nothing. The only thing that makes it better than the Horizon League's television deal is that they're on the tube more frequently; check out A10 fan boards and you'll see they all gripe about how there's no money in their deal. Networks aren't going to shill out more with everything so tenuous, even with Butler and VCU. Could a scenario play out that brings Butler back to the Horizon League? The present conference, minus Detroit, but plus Belmont, Murray St, and Oakland, might become the most attractive basketball only conference available to Butler. That could lead to a much improved TV deal for the HL. There is only one scenario, and it's the one you mentioned at the top. Still, I see no reason that Butler won't get the invite. The point Feinstein is making is that Detroit is attractive. I don't see it. I see a school that lies through its teeth if it says it averages anything more than 1,500. I see a school that has built its current strength on a once-in-a-lifetime father-son relationship that caused a McDonald's All-American to pick the Titans over UCLA and Kansas. I see that strength as wildly shaky at best. The amount of departures in the McCallum tenure even outpaces Milwaukee in the same time frame. The actions of players in their program - ranging from beating up frat boys to getting kicked out of a nightclub and getting arrested trying to smuggle a taser back into that same club an hour later - are indicative of the players that Ray McCallum Sr. recruits. Once Ray Jr. is gone, they're falling back to the heap. And where does that leave Ray Sr? It leaves him running a program with two coaches and an AD gone from scandal in which he played a significant role. I like most of the people at Detroit, but unless this basketball conference becomes a superleague, I don't see them as viable to Marquette and the others.
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 18, 2013 16:23:05 GMT -6
They're selective, not stupid. The Catholic 7 is the name being used because that's the catchy media term for it; I seriously doubt they're beholden to anything but adding the absolute best basketball programs that aren't hitched to football. Don't be so sure. There are a lot of senior level people at Marquette who want to see a return to sports being an extension of the university, not THE UNIVERSITY. Making money is less important to schools like Marquette than it is to many others.
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Post by axaguy on Feb 19, 2013 7:34:47 GMT -6
Making money is less important to schools like Marquette than it is to many others. Don't kid yourself....... The basketball program at MU is the number one revenue generating source of the university. Finances DO matter there regardless of the phiosophical discussion of athetics vs academics. Being totally honest, they ARE driven by economics. A lot of schools like to SAY they are academics first but in reality................ There are very few University of Chicago's in the modern day world.. Making money with a private school is even more important because of it's private stature, usually smaller alumni bases and no state support at all......... The realities of today.......
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Post by Hack on Feb 26, 2013 9:20:48 GMT -6
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Post by jayh on Jun 25, 2013 19:19:37 GMT -6
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Post by motowntitan on Jun 29, 2013 8:23:09 GMT -6
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